Saturday, April 29, 2006

Subject: Re: CEP/CMAW/JVD / pulp fiction survival agreement

Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:46:59 -0800
From: Josh Coles
Subject: Re: CEP/CMAW/JVD
To: dave

Ok,
After you give it a good read, let me know which parts you think really stink.

And I find your fatalilism about the pulp mills unfair to workers. It is up to union leadership (who are usually the members while on the tools, a la Port Alberni) to try our best to save family support jobs. I think if you went into a PPWC meting and said what you said below you would be shot. We've got to try, Doc, to find solutions and not give up.

- Josh
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave"
To: "Josh Coles"
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: CEP/CMAW/JVD

Hi Josh, thank you, I will read it, your letter was all that I had hoped for and explained many things I had doubts about. I personally do not think that we will be able to save the pulp industry in BC, certainly not on the backs of the workers, I have started to read the agreement you sent and it reads worse than the Allied hydro agreement so far, anyway off to work and thanks again.
--
fraternally, dave livingston
http://carpentersunionbc.com


Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:30:20 -0800
From: dave
Subject: Re: CEP/CMAW/JVD / pulp fiction survival agreement
To: Josh Coles
Cc: jannoster@yahoo.ca, Randy Smith

Josh wrote:
-Ok,
-After you give it a good read, let me know which parts you think really stink.


well, I am half way thru the pulp fiction survival agreement, line by line and not one sentence is acceptable, it obviously was written by a company lawyer, it certainly was not done by any person who ever worked a day in his life, it is the most concessionary regressive, repressive, constricting piece of junk i have ever read, it is an embarrassment as a union member, an embarrassment as a Canadian and is setting very bad precedents for negotiating for the rest of this century. the negotiating committee should be ashamed and the union officers who signed off on it should be the subject of a class action lawsuit for failure to represent their members. it makes ledcor look good, it makes clac a viable alternative. it really stinks. and what it does for stewards is a crime, and to think that ginger goodwin died for the 8 hour work day... everyone who had a hand in it should not only resign but pay back the wages that union members paid them for this betrayal.
--
fraternally, dave livingston
http://carpentersunionbc.com

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

well josh the fact of the matter is CMAW already has an agreement with JV drivers wich is far better than this piece of garbage you negotiated.

Anonymous said...

The resident officers of the BCPCC support the double-breasting of JVD Mill Services Inc. JV Drivers Constructors is a CMAW certified company with an industry standard collective agreement. The resident officers supported the CEP Local 470 double-breasting certification and were heavily involved in negotiating a CLAC-type "Pulp (Fiction) and Paper Survival Agreement". When Brian signed them they were already double breasted ie They already had a certification with all the Building trades when they did it it was fine

Anonymous said...

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE ONE OF THESE CLAC AGGREMENTS POSTED