Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Full Circle Jerks at Kingsway

from Haggarty to Coles the new spin is if you are against the CEP usurpers you are for the International, it makes a fella wonder if Council is takin' marchin orders from the UBCJA... sorta like the IWA going back to an international union instead of staying Canadian

You can post my letter and reply from Josh. It just shows how out of touch people at the coast are with members. Josh had no comment other then he feels I'm wrong. This is 2006 not the 1800's


Subject: Fw: Pulp mill agreement Paul and Dave this is the response I got from Josh What a bunch of CRAP

----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Coles
To: Tony Soichuk
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pulp mill agreement


Thanks for emailing and letting me know how you feel. While I of course disagree with most of what you say, I hear and respect and your opinions just as I am sure you respect the members that voted for and are working under the Pulp Mill agreement. 

Autonomy means that if the majority of any membership group (a crew with a particular employer, for example) wish to vote to leave CMAW and go back to the International, you are certainly provided that right.

I will let others know how you feel. Again, thanks for writing.

In Solidarity,

Josh Coles

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Soichuk
To: rep paul nedlec ; dave livingston ; coles@shaw.ca
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Pulp mill agreement

Dear Josh
I sent an email to Jan Noster you didn't get one because I didn't have your email address. It isn't just Dave that dislikes the agreement talking to a lot of local 2300 members I haven't found one that likes the agreement.
Pulp mills are going the way of the dinosaur all you have to look at is competition from other cheaper countries. The price of pulp is way down and will probably not go back up shortly or ever.

With the work situation in B.C. at present we should be making great strides to get ahead in wages, shorter hours, better payments into the pension plans and better benefits. But when some butthead makes an agreement that puts us back 30 years there is something very wrong with this picture. Working 10 hour shifts 10 days straight lousy time and one half for overtime and this crap about a three month trial period then a person can be fired is totally rediculious. We are going backwards.

This wedding with CMAW should be annuled. If we go back to the international we KNOW where we will get it in the end without the vaseline.

The people that have signed these substandard agreements should be tarred and feathered and shipped to some backward country where their ideas might go over well because here they stink.

Tony Soichuk
Local 2300


Anonymous said...

Well it looks like Embree and company is selling out the BC Carpenters to the CEP, How much does a union go for these days?

Anonymous said...

Brian Zdrillic = Gary Murphy

Anonymous said...

canada, canadian search engine, free email, canada news
Wednesday » April 26 » 2006

Ironworkers reach deal to work at Horizon
Union to fill 500 jobs on $11-billion project

Sarah O'Donnell
The Edmonton Journal

Saturday, April 22, 2006

EDMONTON - Free direct flights to work and hundreds of guaranteed jobs have enticed an ironworkers union to break ranks with other building trade unions to help build a huge oilsands project.

The workers gave up on longstanding demands to be paid double time for some overtime hours in order to secure work at the $11-billion Horizon construction project.

In exchange, they will have access to direct flights from Edmonton to the Horizon site 75 kilometres north of Fort McMurray. And the deal may lead to more than 500 jobs that might have gone to non-unionized workers, said Darrell LaBoucan, business manager for Local 720 of the International Association of Bridge, Structural, Ornamental and Reinforcing Ironworkers.

"Those jobs either would have (gone) to the non-union sector or they would have (gone) maybe to offshore people, maybe temporary foreign workers," he said.

The union is the only member of the Alberta Building Trades Council to have signed a formal agreement with Horizon Construction, which is owned by Canadian Natural Resources Ltd.

The trades council has historically demanded that its workers be paid double time for most overtime. The ironworkers will be paid time-and-a-half instead, most of the time.

The ironworkers also agreed to a schedule that will allow crews to work for 10 days straight, followed by four days off. Traditional schedules see tradespeople work five eight-hour days followed by two days off, or four 10-hour days followed by three off.

"It's always important for us that the workers who come to our site are committed to work," said Lynn Zeidler, vice-president of Horizon. "Having that agreement demonstrates the union's commitment to supply workers to the site."

Building trades council executive director Paul Walzack said the ironworkers' decision to sign will have a "negligible" impact on his group's ongoing fight against Horizon's terms.

"Should they see that it is to their advantage to pursue a specific piece of business, that's their option," Walzack said. "The view that the ironworkers have taken is certainly not the view of a majority of the building trades affiliates."

Alberta Federation of Labour president Gil McGowan, whose membership includes southern Alberta ironworkers, said he was disappointed and surprised by the decision.

"There's a very good reason why the majority of building trades unions have made protecting double-time their hill to die on," McGowan said.

"When you consider the long hours most of these guys put in on the projects in the Fort McMurray area, it's clear how much is at stake. It's a difference in thousands of dollars in their take-home pay each year."

The union recognizes others in the labour movement are unhappy with its decision, LaBoucan said.

LaBoucan said his local's decision to accept terms like time-and-a-half for weekend shifts applies only to remote sites where free air transport is available. Previously, they had to make the six-hour trip from Edmonton by bus or car on busy Highway 63.

The union also receives better benefits and a higher hourly base wage than those working under a deal made with the Christian Labour Association of Canada, LaBoucan said. The CLAC is an alternative union derided by the rest of the labour movement as being soft on employers.

Its involvement in the Horizon project has been contentious since 2004 when the province granted Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. permission to negotiate a blanket agreement with a single union -- in this case, the CLAC -- that would bind all workers on the site regardless of their affiliation.

© The Edmonton Journal 2006

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Anonymous said...

Good Info. but WTF does that have to do with BC. Just because they work 14 hr days for $1.50 hr in China should we lower our rates to meet theirs? Hey I have an idea, if we go to oilsands project in
Alberta and offer to work for straight time for all hours worked maybe we can do all the work. I think unions were to represent workers not companies

Anonymous said...

Randy Smith and Len Embree==
Cheech and Chong.